Hervey may also have been the 2nd son of Walter, son of a Walter of Domesday Book, son or brother of the William Mallet who after the Battle of Hastings, was entrusted by the Conqueror with the burial of King Harold.
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q alive in 1130
q had a son Hervey Walter
q had a daughter Alice to whom he gave a dowry of 400 acres in Weeton, Lancashire in 1147
q had estates in East Anglia; had 16 or more holdings in Norfolk and Suffolk (9 of which were entered in the Domesday Book under Walter de Caen who was possibly his father-in-law; Hervey may also have been 2nd son of Walter, son of the Walter of the Domesday Book, son or brother of the William Malet who after the Battle of Hstings was entrusted by the Conqueror with the burial of King Harold (source: Burkes Peerage Baronetage and Knightage, 103 Edit. 1962); some speculation that he married the sister of Gilbert Becket father of Thomas a Becket Lord Bishop of Cantebury, but this is discounted by the late historians T. Blake Butler and Lord Dunboyne.
q he was Becket's envoy to the Papal Court 1163-1166 when he died.
2) HERVEY WALTER
q married Maud de Valognes, sister-in-law of Ranulph de Glanville, the most powerful of Henry II's subjects, who would advance their children
q had 4 sons- Theobald, Hubert, Roger, and Hamo
- second son Hubert, Bishop of Salisbury, was instrumental in raising the enormous ransom demanded by the German Emperor Henry VI for Richard Coeur de Lion (Richard I) whom he accompanied on the third Crusade as Bishop of Salsbury. He later governed England ably and even laid some of the foundations of democracy as we know it. He retained the confidence of Henry II and his heirs Richard I and John; he was immensely powerful and became Archbishop of Cantebury in 1193; Chief Justice and Governor of the Kingdom during the absence of RichardI; Chancellor of England in 1199; Pope's Legate in the reign of King John, and died in 1205 in his manor of Teynham.
q Hervey died 1189
3) THEOBALD WALTER alias BOTELER
q had two illegitimate sons by Katherine fitzGerald d/o 4th Earl of Desmond- a)James “Galda” whose descendant, Theobald (died 1596) became the 1st Lord Cahir and his descendant Richard (died 1819) also became 1st Earl of Glengall; and b) Thomas who became Prior of Kilmainham
First son, JAMES 5th Earl of Ormond, 11th Chief Butler, born 1420, was a prominentn Lancastrian and fought in the “Wars of the Roses”.Henry VI created him Earl of Wiltshire, a knight of the Garter and Lord High Treasurer. After a Yorkist triumph at Towton, he was executed at Newcastle, aged 41, and his head set upon London Bridge.
Second son JOHN 6th Earl of Ormond, 12th Chief Butler. Edward IV genially regarded James's brother John the 6th Earl of Ormond as “the goodliest knight he had ever beheld and first gentleman in Christendom” and added that “if good breeding, nurture and liberal qualities were lost in the world, they might be found in John, Earl of Ormond. He was a complete master of the languages of Europe, and was sent as ambassador to its principal courts. He died unmarried in 1478 in the Holy Land
(second son of James, 3rd Earl of Ormond)- beginning of the MacRichard line (see separate blog for details on this line)
q his great grandson Piers inherited the title of 8th Earl of Ormond.
q he built Black Castle at Thurles to guard the pass over the Suir and led the Butlers to disaster in 1462 when he was captured at Piltown Co. Kilkenny, fighting the Desmond Geraldines and, to be released, he had to surrender to his captors his Book of Carrick and his copy of the Psalter of Cashel (now in the Bodleian Library,Oxford).
http://butlerancestryireland.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/butlers-co-wexford-ch1-richard-1stviscount-mountgarrett.html )- see tree below
q during the early years of their marriage, they were reduced to penury by Sir James Ormond (bastard nephew of the 7th Earl of Ormond) and at one time were forced to "lurk in the woods"; the next day, Piers found out where his enemy was to travel, ambushed him, and "gored the bastard through with his spear."
Viscount Thurles (son and heir of Walter 11th Earl of Ormond, and father of James 1st Duke of Ormonde) behind them
-c) John of Kilcash- c.1531 to 10 May 1570- ancestor of the Earls and Dukes of Ormond and later Earls and Marquess' of Ormonde
- two sons, Walter and James
Son, WALTER of Ballynodagh, a devout Catholic became 11th Earl of Ormond and 17th Chief Butler; known as Walter of the Beads; his claim to the estates was thwarted by James I who imprisoned him for 8 years; he died 1633.
Walter's son Thomas Viscount Thurles drowned as he was being sent to England on charges of having garrisoned Kilkenny;
Thomas Viscount Thurles married Elizabeth Poyntz and had three sons, JAMES,John and RICHARD. (Elizabeth Poyntz married secondly George Matthew and had sons Theobald and George Mathew- the Mathew family of Thurles and Thomastown, Tipperary)
Thomas Viscount Thurles' son JAMES, who became a royal ward, would restore the family fortunes and become 12th Earl of Ormonde and 18th Chief Butler in 1633, created 1st Marquess of Ormonde in 1642; he supported Charles I and the Royalists against the Catholic Confederate rebels of Ireland led by his relatives, but joined forces with them to fight against Cromwell's invasion, and shared the privations of exile with Charles II on the Continent, and after the Restoration was created 1st Duke of Ormonde and was Privy Councillor or England, Ireland and Scotland, and Lord Lieutenant of Ireland; he was buried in Westminster Cathedral in 1688. (Ancestor of Queen Elizabeth II).
James's grandson, also named JAMES would succeed him as 2nd Duke of Ormonde (and 13th Earl of Ormonde and 19th Chief Butler). He would participate in the victory over the Duke of Monmouth at Sedgemoor. James did not support the accession of James II and when William of Orange ascended the throne, James was constituted High Constable for the Coronation. He attended William into Ireland, was at the Battle of the Boyne and entertained the King at Kilkenny. In 1693 he was at the battle of Landen, where he received several wounds and had his horse shot out from under him. In 1702 Queen Ann made him Commander in Chief of the land forces sent against France and Spain, where he destroyed the French Fleet, sunk Spanish galleons in the harbour of VIGO, and took the fort of Redondella. In 1711, he was declared Capt. General and Commander in Chief of the land forces in Britain after Queen Ann dismissed Marlborough. In 1713 he was made Warden of the Cinque Ports, and Constable of Dover Castle. But after the accession of George I, his Grace was impeached in 1715 for high treason for supporting the accession of the son of the exiled Catholic James II (ie. James III), and his Palatinate of Tipperary was annulled. He died in exile in France in 1745 and his remains interred in the family vault in Westminster Abbey.
The title Duke of Ormonde which was an English title became extinct, but the Irish title of Earl of Ormonde was inherited by descendants of the 1st Duke of Ormonde's brother RICHARD BUTLER of Kilcash and Garryricken.
(SEE TREE BELOW FOR THIS LINE)
-d) Walter of Nodstown -c.1538 to 1560 (born at Ballynenoddagh, Tipperary)-1 son Pierce who had six sons. Lost estate by Cromwell and transplanted.
-e) James of Duisk- 1540 to 1566; 1 son who died young
-f) Edward of Cloughinche- 1542 to 1605; 1 son (died young)
-g) Pierce of Abbeyleix and Grantstown- 1545-1604
Ormonde Ancestral Tree descended from Walter Butler 11th Earl of Ormond
The title of Chief Butler of Ireland was declared redundant in 1810, the Marquess of Ormonde, Walter Butler, paid 216,000 pounds in compensation.
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