Theobald first assumed the style ‘Pincerna’
when attesting a grant from the archbishops of Dublin as ‘pincerna domini
comitis Moretoniae in Hibernia’/’the butler of the count of Mortain
(Prince John) in Ireland’ (Curtis, Ormond Deeds, no. 11; Cott. MS
fol.266)
John was made Count of Mortain on Richard’s
accession in July 1189, so, the hereditary title of Butler of Ireland came
after that time.
One of the few records in which Theobald’s title of Pincerna/Butler is attached is in the Red Book of the Exchequer (v.1, p.114)
A.D. 1196-97:
And, in his benefaction to Furness Abbey in Lancashire in King Richard’s reign (ie.1189-1199), Theobald began the charter: “Omnibus sanctae matris ecclesiae filiis tam presentibus quam futuris, Theobaldus Walterus pincerna Hybernie salute.” (pincerna Hybernie= butler of Ireland). (Thomas Carte, The Life of James Duke of Ormonde, v.1, New edit. 1851 [1st pub.1736], p.xlii)
As Richard spent a total of 6 months in England during his ten-year reign, his realm was administered by his mother, Queen Eleanor of Aquitaine, and between 1193 and 1198, Hubert Walter, appointed by Richard as Chief Justiciar and Archbishop of Canterbury, in effect, acted as regent during his absence. Theobald’s close relationship with John ended during John’s rebellion against Richard in 1193-94 when Theobald surrendered Lancaster Castle in 1194 to his brother Hubert who convinced Theobald to pledge loyalty to Richard. From that time, Theobald would no longer have acted as butler to John. It was probably during this tumultuous time that Hubert organised an upgrade of Theobald’s title to that of hereditary [Chief] Butler of Ireland/pincerna Hybernie. The following generations of [Chief] Butlers of Ireland took the surname 'le Boteler'.
1)
3) THEOBALD WALTER alias BOTELER
First son, JAMES 5th Earl of Ormond, 11th Chief Butler, born 1420, was a prominentn Lancastrian and fought in the “Wars of the Roses”.Henry VI created him Earl of Wiltshire, a knight of the Garter and Lord High Treasurer. After a Yorkist triumph at Towton, he was executed at Newcastle, aged 41, and his head set upon London Bridge.
Second son JOHN 6th Earl of Ormond, 12th Chief Butler. Edward IV genially regarded James's brother John the 6th Earl of Ormond as “the goodliest knight he had ever beheld and first gentleman in Christendom” and added that “if good breeding, nurture and liberal qualities were lost in the world, they might be found in John, Earl of Ormond. He was a complete master of the languages of Europe, and was sent as ambassador to its principal courts. He died unmarried in 1478 in the Holy Land
(second son of James, 3rd Earl of Ormond)- beginning of the MacRichard line (see separate blog for details on this line)
q his great grandson Piers inherited the title of 8th Earl of Ormond.
q he built Black Castle at Thurles to guard the pass over the Suir and led the Butlers to disaster in 1462 when he was captured at Piltown Co. Kilkenny, fighting the Desmond Geraldines and, to be released, he had to surrender to his captors his Book of Carrick and his copy of the Psalter of Cashel (now in the Bodleian Library,Oxford).
http://butlerancestryireland.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/butlers-co-wexford-ch1-richard-1stviscount-mountgarrett.html )- see tree below
q during the early years of their marriage, they were reduced to penury by Sir James Ormond (bastard nephew of the 7th Earl of Ormond) and at one time were forced to "lurk in the woods"; the next day, Piers found out where his enemy was to travel, ambushed him, and "gored the bastard through with his spear."
Viscount Thurles (son and heir of Walter 11th Earl of Ormond, and father of James 1st Duke of Ormonde) behind them
-c) John of Kilcash- c.1531 to 10 May 1570- ancestor of the Earls and Dukes of Ormond and later Earls and Marquess' of Ormonde
- two sons, Walter and James
Son, WALTER of Ballynodagh, a devout Catholic became 11th Earl of Ormond and 17th Chief Butler; known as Walter of the Beads; his claim to the estates was thwarted by James I who imprisoned him for 8 years; he died 1633.
Walter's son Thomas Viscount Thurles drowned as he was being sent to England on charges of having garrisoned Kilkenny;
Thomas Viscount Thurles married Elizabeth Poyntz and had three sons, JAMES,John and RICHARD. (Elizabeth Poyntz married secondly George Matthew and had sons Theobald and George Mathew- the Mathew family of Thurles and Thomastown, Tipperary)
Thomas Viscount Thurles' son JAMES, who became a royal ward, would restore the family fortunes and become 12th Earl of Ormonde and 18th Chief Butler in 1633, created 1st Marquess of Ormonde in 1642; he supported Charles I and the Royalists against the Catholic Confederate rebels of Ireland led by his relatives, but joined forces with them to fight against Cromwell's invasion, and shared the privations of exile with Charles II on the Continent, and after the Restoration was created 1st Duke of Ormonde and was Privy Councillor or England, Ireland and Scotland, and Lord Lieutenant of Ireland; he was buried in Westminster Cathedral in 1688. (Ancestor of Queen Elizabeth II).
James's grandson, also named JAMES would succeed him as 2nd Duke of Ormonde (and 13th Earl of Ormonde and 19th Chief Butler). He would participate in the victory over the Duke of Monmouth at Sedgemoor. James did not support the accession of James II and when William of Orange ascended the throne, James was constituted High Constable for the Coronation. He attended William into Ireland, was at the Battle of the Boyne and entertained the King at Kilkenny. In 1693 he was at the battle of Landen, where he received several wounds and had his horse shot out from under him. In 1702 Queen Ann made him Commander in Chief of the land forces sent against France and Spain, where he destroyed the French Fleet, sunk Spanish galleons in the harbour of VIGO, and took the fort of Redondella. In 1711, he was declared Capt. General and Commander in Chief of the land forces in Britain after Queen Ann dismissed Marlborough. In 1713 he was made Warden of the Cinque Ports, and Constable of Dover Castle. But after the accession of George I, his Grace was impeached in 1715 for high treason for supporting the accession of the son of the exiled Catholic James II (ie. James III), and his Palatinate of Tipperary was annulled. He died in exile in France in 1745 and his remains interred in the family vault in Westminster Abbey.
The title Duke of Ormonde which was an English title became extinct, but the Irish title of Earl of Ormonde was inherited by descendants of the 1st Duke of Ormonde's brother RICHARD BUTLER of Kilcash and Garryricken.
(SEE TREE BELOW FOR THIS LINE)
-d) Walter of Nodstown -c.1538 to 1560 (born at Ballynenoddagh, Tipperary)-1 son Pierce who had six sons. Lost estate by Cromwell and transplanted.
-e) James of Duisk- 1540 to 1566; 1 son who died young
-f) Edward of Cloughinche- 1542 to 1605; 1 son (died young)
-g) Pierce of Abbeyleix and Grantstown- 1545-1604
Ormonde Ancestral Tree descended from Walter Butler 11th Earl of Ormond
The title of Chief Butler of Ireland was declared redundant in 1810, the Marquess of Ormonde, Walter Butler, paid 216,000 pounds in compensation.
http://www.butler-soc.org/nextormond/index.htm
© B.A. Butler
The Butler Pedigree:
http://butlergenealogyireland.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/the-butler-pedigree.html
The Genealogical History of Irish Butlers
http://butlergenealogyireland.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/genealogical-history-of-irish-butlers.html
The MacRichard Line
http://butlergenealogyireland.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/history-of-butlers-macrichard-line.html
see blog on Richard Butler 1st Viscount Mountgarrett:
http://butlerancestryireland.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/butlers-co-wexford-ch1-richard-1stviscount-mountgarrett.html
Part 1: The Ancestral Origins of Theobald Walter, Ancestor of the
Butlers of Ireland
Part 2: Possible candidates for the Walter surname named 'Walter' in the
Domesday Book
http://butlergenealogyireland.blogspot.com/2022/05/part-2-of-ancestral-origins-of-theobald.html
Part 3: Analysis of the various theories of the origins of the Walter
family
http://butlergenealogyireland.blogspot.com/2022/05/part-3-ancestral-origins-of-theobald.html
Part 4: Lands of the Walter family
http://butlergenealogyireland.blogspot.com/2022/05/part-4-ancestral-origins-of-theobald.html





